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Lords minister dismisses Berwick move to Scotland

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Published Date:
16 April 2008
THE possibility of Berwick moving from England to Scotland has been dismissed by a Government minister in the House of Lords.

The issue hit the national headlines earlier this year when a poll revealed a majority felt the town would be better off north of the border.

Government Minister Lord Hunt, speaking in a Lords debate, said: "The Government have no plans at all t
o take any of this forward.

"We believe strongly in the union and wish to do everything that we can to support, encourage and develop it."

He was speaking in response to Manderston peer Lord Palmer who asked Government ministers to give an assurance that Berwick should stay in England and to 'send an edict to members of the Scottish Executive to make certain that they try not to meddle in English affairs'.

According to a poll by for ITV's Tonight programme, 60% of those who responded wanted the town to be administered by Scotland.
Better financed public services, including free personal health care for the elderly, were the main reasons.

Coun Diana Beith (Baroness Maddock) told the House that Berwick residents were very aware of the higher spending in Scotland.

"I have welcomed the publicity for Berwick; many people in this Chamber will have seen beautiful Berwick on their TV screens.

"However, does the Minister realise that, being so close to the Scottish border, Berwick residents are only too aware of the higher spending per capita on public services across it?

"They ask why we cannot have a better and fairer settlement in north-east Northumberland to pay for our public services.

"We have the next-to-lowest average wage in Britain.

"Will he help me to answer those questions from people who live in Berwick-upon-Tweed?"

Lord Barnett, whose 30 year old formula determines how much money Scotland gets, intervened to say that the formula should now be reviewed.

However, Lord Hunt said: "While expenditure in Scotland in some areas can be seen to be greater than expenditure elsewhere, similar differences exist between the regions within England.

"Overall, the Barnett formula and the settlement that arises from it have served the United Kingdom well. We should stick with it."

Belford's cross-bench peer, Lord Walton of Detchant, asked whether the Government would embark on the long-awaited programme of dualling the A1 between Newcastle and Berwick.

Lord Hunt replied: "I am sure that we will give every consideration to the noble Lord's request to dual the road that he mentioned."

Coun Beith and other peers commented that the TV publicity showing how beautiful Berwick is should at least be good for the area.



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Patrick Harris,

Portsmouth 21/04/2008 11:57:12
Only if you are Scottish, Welsh or N. Irish are you consulted as to your favoured method of governance, normally by referendum, If you are English, part of the country gets a referendum, the result of which is ignored, but apart from that you will do as you are told.
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blueguru,

USA 21/04/2008 12:57:40
"We believe strongly in the Union" - Lord Hunt

What has the Union got to go with it? Last time I checked both Scotland and England were (supposed equal) members. Moving Berwick into Scotland would be similar to transferring a footballer to another club in the same league. It would have no affect on the Union whatsoever. Methinks the noble lord has been indulging his port wine habit again!
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Patrick Harris,

Portsmouth 21/04/2008 16:24:24
I can't wait for Scotland to claim Portsmouth, free prescriptions, in the near future. Free university education. Free social care in old age. Free central heating.
Roll on.
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Dr. James Wilkie,

Vienna 22/04/2008 12:26:14
Berwick to this day has never been officially transferred to England. The Treaty of York in 1237 established the Anglo-Scottish border on its present line from the Solway Firth to the mouth of the River Tweed. Its status as a pert of Scotland under English administration dates from the 1502 Treaty of Perpetual Peace between the two countries. That treaty made it clear that Berwick was "of" England but not "in" England.

All the relevant legislation to this day applies only to Berwick's administrative status, and not to its constitutional position. It remains a part of Scotland under English administration. The administrative border at Lamberton should not be confused with the constitutional border, which remains the mouth of the River Tweed. That cannot be altered without the consent of the Scottish people, who now have their own government and parliament to represent them.

Finally, it is high time that this mediaeval anachronism was abolished with the removal of the English administration from north of the Tweed.

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